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Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by Jerry Maus Origin on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:07 pm

1. Your Steam ID: 76561198119737424


2. Your In-Game Name: Jerry


3. Who banned you: Iron Curtain


4. Why were you banned: What Iron's misconception was:Trolling. Reality: Simply "Arguing" (No reason for a week ban)


5. Why you think you should be unbanned: I should be unbanned I really haven't done anything wrong and Iron has been messing with me all day.
It started off with The Joker calling me profane names so I argued back and Iron targeted me, so Things sort of escalated through the day.

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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by IronCurtain on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:46 pm

THE STORY:
  As stated in his own story, it started with an argument between The Joker and Jerry. I told them to break it up, but since it was heated neither of them folowed through. So I then muted and gagged them both. After giving them both a warning, I unmuted and ungagged both and the Joker apologized and said that he was just upset. Then Jerry began spamming the chat saying "He called me a cunt!" then called The Joker multiple profanities including "faggot" and "retard" so I muted and gagged him again. I warned everyone to just drop the situation and that it as handled, after unmuted and ungagging him he started complaining about it all again saying I was targetting him. After muting and gagging him for a third time in a row, I once again told him to just drop the situation since it had been dealt with and the argument was over. He then proceeded to constnatly spam me in admin chat (apparently muting doesn't prevent that) so I kicked him for not dropping the situation. he joined back and started at it again shortly after so I kicked him again for that as well as trolling. Finally when he got back on he turned on his caps lock and began swearing at not only me in chat, but going on and on about how he's allowed to defend himself and how The Joker was being an "Asswhole". After using that underhand insult against the joker I banned him for one hour for not only trolling, but disrespect and constant arguing.
  Then after about an hour he logged back in and we were at the lego jail map. He then started spamming in admin chat about how I falsely banned him, and how he has the right to defend himself. I then had to repeatedly tell him that I didn't kick and ban him for defending himself, I kicked and banned him for continuing a situation that was already solved and The Joker stopped the situation and stopped commenting after the first gag and mute/warning, so why couldn't Jerry?.. Next off he finally stopped bringing up how I "falsely banned" him for a little while. Instead he began saying I was targetting him when he was mic spamming and I told him to stop, or when I killed him for breaking wardens rules. Constantly he attempted to find reasons to say I was targetting him and only him and not punishing The Joker. I logged off after it finally stopped being so heated and I had assumed things had been solved.
  I logged back onto the server later that evening and someone said "Yay an admin is on!" and Jerry responded over mic with: "Yeah... Except when he bans you for no reason" I once again told him to drop the situation, that it was handled, and if he truly feels it was abusive he could post on forums. He then got headed again and in his own words became "pissed" so he started spamming admin chat with caps lock on constantly swearing at me and the situation saying I falsely banned him and am being a shitty admin. So after a few more mutes and gags I just kicked him for it overall, so he logs back on the server and he starts doing underhand attacks at me saying that I'm a troll and that once again I'm targetting him. He tried to call RDM for every single person I killed, and over and over just trolling and constnatly whining about how I falsley banned him. So I directly said "Jerry, this is your final warning" and he continued, so I said "Jerry I'm serious, this is your final final warning" and he continued. Then I said "I can't believe I've given you three 'final' warnings, but I'm serious. If you keep up your constant trolling I will just ban you for longer than an hour" and he said "ok" and things went calm for a few minutes, until he started up the situation again. Just consistant trolling in the most minor ways and randomly telling another prisoner quote "shut your fucking mouth" so I told him to not disrespect, after this he accused me of not only targetting him, but trolling. He then started spamming about how I'm trolling him and how I'm the real troll and I haven't explained how he's a troll. For one final time I completely explained how he was being a troll to which he responded, and I quote: "You won't ban me because you don't want to get demoted. You just have something against me". This is where I then banned him for one week.

REASON:
1. Trolling: His contant deliberately offensive aims to make someone upset (whether it's me or another prisoner)
1.5. History of Trolling: Ask any other staff member who has had to deal with Jerry in the past, he is notorious for his near constnat and repetative trolling. Overall his negativity and toxicity jsut cumulated to the point that he needs to be banned. In the past when Katy banned him, he gave him the benefit of a doubt. Today I gave him literally dozens of them. He obviously is a long way from rehabilitation and thus we must turn to the alternative, retribution.
2. Constant arguing with staff: Self explanatory, if he truly felt I had been abusive he could post on forums like I told him to, not filled up the chat and made everyone else on the server endure it.
3. Staff Disrespect: His constant use of profanity and insults towards me and staff in the past.
4. Negativity: Like I said earlier, sometimes people are just too toxic and specifically aim to hurt and annoy other people, I feel as though Jerry is one of these people.
5. Not responding to previous warnings/punishments: If you can't learn from several gags, dozens of warnings, multiple kicks, and an hour long ban. Sometimes you just need more (I.E. a week long ban)

LIST OF RULES BROKEN:
2. Do not use excessive Vulgar language.
3. Respect all players.
4. When a staff member says something, Listen.
6. Do not spam mic/chat
12. Do not Troll is any way.
14. Use common sense when you need to

FURTHER READING
Even in his own post and words... he admits to breaking most of these rules
"Simply "Arguing" (No reason for a week ban)": He directly admits to arguing. However this is a euphemism for what I consider constanty whining, trolling, mic spamming, and even direct disrespect
"]The Joker calling me profane names so I argued back": Yes this is true, but actually better flows to my side of the argument... I gagged and muted them both, The Joker quickly apologized and agreed to drop it, Jerry however did not.
"I should be unbanned I really haven't done anything wrong": I mean, this is all opinion, but iat the end of the day he did a lot of things wrong. Also I'd like to note that what he says here, directly contradicts with the end of his statement where he said "Things sory of escalated through the day." If things escalated, how could he have not done anything wrong?
"Iron targeted me": once again he struggles to find any valid arguments against why I banned him, so he always goes back and resorts to this argument, me targetting him. First of all this is just flawed and untrue, I have never once targetted him and have even given him more than a benefit of a doubt. Two he has absolutely no examples as to how I'm targetting him when I muted and gagged The Joker and numerous other people throughout the day as well. Three even if somehow this is true, and I was targetting him (which I wasn't), he obviously gave me a shit ton of things to target him with. Four if I was targetting him I would have banned him much earlier instead of giving him countless warnings.

FURTHER PROOF
If you truly need further proof, and don't see my reason for banning him, you can ask just about anyone else who happened to be online during anytime Jerry was on today. he has been a constant nuisance and has been constantly bickering and finding things and ways to argue. Even in game when numerous other people told him to stop trolling and agreed that action needed to be taken, he responded with a simple: "Of course you'll side with Iron! He's an admin!" once again falling back to that whole boogey man story of me targetting him and abusing my power.
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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by Katy Perry on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:00 pm

Well... I wasn't there when this happened, but Iron is one of the more trusted staff members.  And if he says that this is what happened, then i believe him.  And jerry, this totally sounds like something you would do.  And you are probably going to call me "bias" for this post.  But honestly I dont care.  I have come to realize that you are just a massive troll ALL the time.  So I dont think I even have to consult the other owners on this because i know they would agree with me and Iron.  So....

You Will Server The Full Ban Length

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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by IronCurtain on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:02 pm

EVEN FURTHER PROOF
1. After his constant trolling, I warn him again to which he says I'm trolling. Then others argued back saying for him to stop trolling and that I'm not trolling. He ended saying they are only taking my side since I'm an admin.
[Regular] Jerry: ok
[Regular] Jerry: but why are you trolling me so much today >
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: you guys are only taking his side because he's and admin
2. After I told him I hoped that he would figure it out after the first gags and mutes[/b]
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: yeah i hope you figure it out too
3. After I killed him for leaving his cell when leaving cells was KOS
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: rdm
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: rdm
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: rdm
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: rdm
4. After I typo'd when I tried to !slap myself
[Admin] IronCurtain: !lspa IronCurtain 46
[Admin] IronCurtain: !slap IronCurtain 46
You slapped Yourself with 46 damage
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: lspa xD
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: lspa
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: !lspa iron curtain 999999999999999
5. After I explained the outcome of wrong chair and he didn't listen and assumed I didn't
[Regular] Jerry: you rdmed 2 ppl
[Regular] Jerry: !motd
[Regular] Jerry: teamswap iron
6. Jerry after Mic Spamming and I gagged him
[Admin] IronCurtain: !gag jerry
You gagged Jerry
[Admin] IronCurtain: Jerry
[Regular] Jerry: lol
[Admin] IronCurtain: Don't be a troll or dick
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: i am never either of those
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: so please no false accusations
[Admin] IronCurtain: Don't troll
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: it seems as if you are trolling me right now
MrLuuna killed Peter Griffin using weapon_m3
*DEAD* [Regular] Jerry: thank you
[Admin] IronCurtain: Jerry. drop it
He then started to sing over mic "drop it like it's hot!" After I told him to stop 1. singing and 2. trolling he said
[Regular] Jerry: you troll
[Regular] Jerry: ok


IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE EXAMPLES OCCURED OVER THE COURSE OF 2 ROUNDS. I DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE LOGS FROM THIS MORNING, AFTERNOON, OR EVEN PREVIOUS GAMES THIS EVENING. I CAN'T SHOW LOGS OF MULTIPLE OCCAISIONS OVER MICS OR YOU'D SEE THOSE AS WELL. IF I CAN FIND 6 EXAMPLES OF TROLLING IN JUST CHAT IN TWO ROUNDS, IMAGINE ALL THE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES BEFORE THOSE TWO ROUNDS.
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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by Jerry Maus Origin on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:26 pm

Let me straighten some facts out. You gagged me once then kicked me ONCE then Banned me so I don't know what this crap about giving me lots of warnings is. Second off, I NEVER called you a shitty admin and you entirely made that up which is more proof of your targeting. Third I was never mic spamming but once and like for 3 seconds so you dragged that one out and made a big deal out of nothing. Fourth you said "I don't care if it's self defense" so you lied about about that one too. So its pretty obvious you are purposely trying to get me banned. Fifth I was never trolling that whole time no matter how much you want to try to use that as an excuse so that was also very provocative when you are constantly accusing me of trolling when I'm not trolling at all.

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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by Jerry Maus Origin on Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:59 pm

Not to mention that disrespect is a maximum of a kick. If you do not believe me check the punishments.

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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by IronCurtain on Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:37 pm

The situation is resolved. you will live out your week long ban
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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by Katy Perry on Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:37 pm

Jerry Maus Origin wrote:Not to mention that disrespect is a maximum of a kick. If you do not believe me check the punishments.

If you have already been kicked for disrespect and join back and disrespect more then he has the right to give proper punishment for the amount of disrespect that you did. And if you disagree with this then thats your own problem because there is a lot of proof against you, and you really dont have any so... just deal with it.

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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by Jerry Maus Origin on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:06 pm

Well can you please just shorten it to like a day or so because I didn't RDM or anything. Pleeease Neutral Neutral pale pale

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Re: Jerry Keeps Getting Banned For No Reason!!

Post by IronCurtain on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:07 pm

Jerry this can be a learning experience for you. Take the time to think and learn
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